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Just a line Note: Jeff has been really busy, so here are clipped excerpts from e-mail notes. I have also put a list of teams by league at the bottom to get you aquainted with team names and structure.


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Jan 29, 1996: Well, it hasn't concluded exactly, more like stopped. I just haven't had the interest since probably around the time of my last reports, when the Angels and Blue Jays were seesawing for first in the UL, and the Red Sox were nailing down the pennant in the OL, with the '27 Yanks floundering in 3rd.

Monday, December 04, 1995 9:41AM

Yes, another death. That makes four this season, which is about two too many for me. I whole thing id definitely up for modifications between seasons. But it's still a great story: Joe Dugan takes buckshot at close range from a deranged umpire over a disputed call. The umpire has been incarcerated, the sawed off shotgun now safely in the hands of a police forensics lab. Joe Dugan, third baseman for the 1927 New York Yankees, is dead. Replacing him in the very next game...Eddie Collins. The '27 Yankees' Murderers Row just got tougher. Now here's what's interesting: the Red Sox are running away with everything in the OL this year, but their closest rivals, the Mets and the '27 Yankees, have both been able to improve their lineups (with Ty Cobb and Eddie Collins respectively), which bodes well for a good pennant racenext year. In the UL, this year, the Angels are now just percentage points behind the Blue Jays, and these two teams are squaring off for a 2-game series next. In the midterm, the Angels have their next five games after that against the tough Cardinals, while the Blue Jays have their next four against the pansy '87 Twins. Who do you like now? I know, I know, you guys don't like either of them. But you have to admit things look good for the Jays. And remind me to tell you sometime about how they survived the last season to be in this one at all. It's another great story..

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:53:38 PST


From: Jeff
To: tom
Subject: RE: Mookie Wilson RIP

Yes, everyone forgot. No one attended the funeral. We're not even sure it happened. All we know for sure is that he's dead.

Did you get my update about how the Angels are about to teeter out of first place? They haven't yet. They pulled out one game against the Cardinals to save themselves, and now face the troublesome but beatable Padres then '29 Cubs. I'm so excited. I seem to have a pennant race on my hands.
From: Tom
To: Jeff |
Subject: Mookie Wilson RIP
Date: Friday, November 10, 1995 12:24AM

Hey,

Paging through old messages (accidnetally, my finger got stuck on up arrow), and what did I see. I had forgotten about him, has everyone else? Is the player's fund still sending his widow flowers? Does he have a widow?

Tom

Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:14:43 PST

I haven't played a lot these past several weeks, but um, let's see... the Angels are all but toppled. They dropped two to the Cardinals this weekend, which effectively puts the Blue Jays in first place. Blue Jays are doing it with pitching: Key is working on a 1.06 ERA, and Grove (yes, Lefty Grove, finally performing) is also under 2.00. (The Angels have been largely riding on the back of Jack Chesbro, who's now posting a stunning 0.90 ERA with 60+ IP; their other starters have been good, but lately have been bad, and the lineup is pretty lackluster, despite the presence of Lajoie and Ott.) Musial, Hornsby, and Foxx are all acting like contenders for a triple crown. Right now Musial leads with .420, Foxx with 19 HR, and Hornsby with 49 RBI, but all three are in all three (so to speak). In the OL, hallelujah, Oil Can "Emperor" Boyd may have been finally revealed as naked. His last outing he was drubbed, giving up eight runs in six innings in his first loss (he's now 10-1) and dropping his ERA to 2.24, taking him out of the league lead in that category. The Red Sox still seem to be a foregone conclusion; they're 42-13, with the second-place Mets now at something like 31-22. Forget it. Next season. But can a UL team beat the Red Sox? And who's it gonna be? Those exciting questions still remain to be answered.

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 10:26:30 PDT

Here are my scanty dice baseball reports. The '70 Orioles took two out of three from the Mets. The O's have surged over .500, locked up 4th place, and look strong for better things this season (MAYBE even 3rd)...trouble is the long-term outlook. I don't think they're good enough to ever win the pennant, which leaves them with the fate of a '31 A's, '41 Yankees, or '61 Yankees, perennial also-rans. The Mets, meanwhile, can't get it together with Cobb. The Mets can't get it together? Shocking! He finally had a Cobb-like game, 3-5 with 2 SB or something, but he certainly hasn't had anything like instant impact. Oil Can Boyd LOST, repeat, Oil Can Boyd LOST a game finally--he got shelled by the '41 Yankees, giving up 5 runs in 6 innings. The probabilities finally turn. He's now 10-1, with an ERA certainly down from 1.56 but probably not a lot over 2.00, if that. That's the OL. In the UL, the Padres have seemingly taken their fate into their own hands, sweeping a 3-game series off the Cards, and preparing to face them in another 3-game series shortly. The Cards are now in 3rd place, the Pad's in 4th; Blue Jays are in 2nd, Angels still hold the lead.

Date: Tue, 22 Aug 95 14:28:10 PDT
From: Jeff
To: jay, tom
Subject: Something like an update

In the UL, the mighty, mighty '87 Twins have won three games in a row, a veritable miracle in this, their year of shame. They beat the '65 Dodgers twice, and then the '29 Cubs. They're doing it with Puckett and Hrbek, hitting .320 and .316 respectively, and also with the power that kept them afloat in reality: Puckett, Hrbek, Brunansky, and Gaetti are all perfectly capable of popping the long ball. If someone actually happens to be on base at the time, all the better. Anyway, this makes their current record 14-35, which means they can now only tie for the worst record of all time (14-56, the '86 Red Sox in Season V...but look what they went on to become), and probably, God willing, will do better than that. Meanwhile, the '29 Cubs and Padres both seem to be collapsing (Cubs at 21-21, Pads at 14-16), which means the Mariners, in 6th place, at 26-31, still have a chance to take themselves out honorably. Weird. I really had them figured for the absolute cellar, the Twins at 7th and the Dodgers in 6th. Aw, go figure, huh?

In the OL, the Mets are slated to play a makeup game with the '31 A's, and then a three-game series with the '70 Orioles. Should be interesting. Am very curious about how Cobb will affect their fortunes. There's a dogfight shaping up over 4th place (read: survival for another season) between the Orioles and the '41 Yankees. Tsk, tsk, who to cheer for.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 15:45:56 PDT
From: Jeff
To: tom
Subject: RE: Fresh news...

I'm busy anyway and currently mired in relatively uninteresting games. For example, if I wasn't ... I would be witnessing a matchup between the '87 Twins (11-35) and the '65 Dodgers (can't think of the record, but they're in 7th place)...at the Metrodome, which means there's not even weather to relieve the tedium. Oh, well, this is like doing the sky in a jigsaw puzzle, right? Somewhat tedious but ultimately rewarding. Something like that. How's everything? Have you and Connie talked any more about moving in? Let me know when you get a chance. Talk to you later. ----------

Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:33:19 PDT


From: Jeff
To: jay, tom
Subject: FW: Quick & Dirty update

Currently in my season it's a lot of boring games, 7th place teams vs. 8th place teams and like that, which has made them easy to put off. It also means I'm seeing more than I want to of the '87 Twins (11-35, it's breaking my heart) and '65 Dodgers (with two big stats leaders, Maury Wills and Sandy Koufax, nearly doubling their closest competitors in the stolen base and strikeout categories, but they have nothing else whatsoever going for them) in the UL; and, in the OL, the '89 A's (what are they doing here?). I can't believe what I'm hearing about Aaron. I thought his mediocrity was the one thing all of us could count on.

Everyone forgot Mookie Wilson's funeral and are now living uncomfortably with the guilt. Some have suggested calling the cemetery to make sure he actually was buried, but no one has been willing to do it.

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 09:38:26 PDT

From: Jeff
To: donahuej@edmonds.wednet.edu, tlink@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu
Subject: RE: Mookie Wilson R.I.P.

Anyway, Tyee had his debut last night and the man from the Money Store had a thing or two to say about it, stopping him 0-4, and helping the '70 Orioles to a 3-2 victory. Hopes are still extremely high for "Corn," of course, but he was looking like the rest of his team last night--a loser. Other Mets, meanwhile, are practicing their ballroom maneuverings at the prospect of dancing on Mookie's grave before heading to Baltimore for another 3-game series soon. ----------
From: Jay
To: Jeff
Subject: RE: Mookie Wilson R.I.P.
Date: Tuesday, August 08, 1995 8:10AM

MOOKIE'S DEAD, MOOKIE'S DEAD, MOOKIE'S DEAD, MOOKIE'S DEAD!!!!!!

I think Mookie's hallucinations point to a hidden (well, not so hidden now) drug problem. I must admit, I'm not sorry to see him go; hopefully Hubie Brooks is next. ----------

Date: Monday, August 07, 1995 1:16PM


From: Jeff
To: donahuej; tlink
Subject: Mookie Wilson R.I.P.

In the UL, the Blue Jays took two out of three from the weakening Angels (who seem to be losing pop in their lineup ... I really doubt whether Lajoie and Ott can carry them, but their pitching is solid). If the Blue Jays had swept it would have put them in a tie for first place, so there definitely seems to be a pennant race shaping up.

In the OL, meanwhile, news that I think we can all agree is good: Mookie Wilson died. Yes, while flagging down a routine fly he suddenly hallucinated that second base was beyond the fence and that he was stealing it. He ran into it hard, crushing all the vertabrae in his backbone simultaneously. He died wheezing something unintelligible ("Wally's safe at third, safe at third"?). The funeral is Wednesday.

Taking his place is the as yet untried rookie Ty Cobb (Strawberry will be moving his mediocre self to center). Expectations are high that Cobb will fill the leadoff role that Wally Backman has held down so sturdily lo these many years (currently he is hitting .235, though he does walk and steal...in fact, he is currently second behind George Sisler in steals).

All in all, it was a good day for the Mets, who were in the process of picking two close ones off the '70 Orioles when the centerfield wall beckoned to Mookie. Dwight Gooden defeated Warren Spahn 2-1, and then Sid Fernandez went the distance in a 1-0 nailbiter (Frank Robinson went down for the Orioles in the first game, which hardly helped matters for them). The third game of this set, to be played at some undetermined time in the future (read: next chance) will feature the debut of Doktor Herr Cobb.

Wee-heee! More news later.


Old Timers League

Red Sox Mets '27 Yankees '41 Yankees '70 Orioles '89 A's '74/75 Reds

UpStart League

Blue Jays Angels Cardinals Padres Mariners Padres '29 Cubs '65 Dodgers '87 Twins All teams without a year are 1984/85 mixes.
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A little background on Jeff's league

The teams are APBA's team packs. The Upstart League started with teams from mixes of the 1984/1985 teams.

In the Old Timer's league, the top 4 teams stay, the bottom 4 teams go.

In the UpStart League, teams finishing in 4th and 5th place are gone. Teams finishing 6th, 7th or 8th receive "juicing". When juiced, a team receives a hand-picked player from the Hall of Fame cards. A current player can be summarily dismissed.

By the way, if someone dies, they are replaced by a Hall of Fame card as well, which seems to come by chance. The Mets, saddened by the untimely passing of Mookie Wilson, are hoping a southern rube by the name of Cobb can fill his gap in the outfield. Likewise, the '70 Orioles are trying to fit a thin young lefthander called Spahn into their rotation. Memorials for Davey Johnson can be addressed to the club. Just a line
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